From learr@rogers.com Wed Jun 2 21:26:16 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i531QGsZ020148 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:26:16 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i531MkUb025760 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:26:11 -0400 Received: from fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com ([66.185.86.71]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060221260324196 for ; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:26:03 -0400 Received: from rogers.com ([24.102.77.249]) by fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with ESMTP id <20040603012554.VZUE3107.fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com> for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:25:54 -0400 Message-ID: <40BE7E32.3070306@rogers.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:26:10 -0400 From: Rolf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040421 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.102.77.249] using ID at Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:25:54 -0400 Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Well, someone has to break the ice.... X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 01:26:16 -0000 Third ICFP, busy trying to round up some friends to help out this year. I am sure I could have won (or at least submitted a functional entry) last year if I wasn't working alone (and with a newborn baby)... This year I think I will get some part-time help. Here's holding thumbs. Anyone else out there? Rolf From sergio.garcia@imag.fr Thu Jun 3 03:08:51 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i5378psZ021312 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 03:08:51 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i5378kUK032320 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 03:08:46 -0400 Received: from imag.imag.fr ([129.88.30.1]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060303083809881 for ; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 03:08:38 -0400 Received: from pibe.imag.fr (pibe.imag.fr [129.88.103.53]) by imag.imag.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5378gmb001288 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:08:42 +0200 (CEST) From: sergio garcia Organization: calabozo To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:08:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.94 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406030908.24376.sergio.garcia@imag.fr> X-IMAG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-IMAG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Operating system and installed software. X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: sergio.garcia@imag.fr List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 07:08:52 -0000 Hello, Is there any information online about the hardware, operating system and pre-installed software that the test machines will have? Something in the lines of http://icfpcontest.cse.ogi.edu/machine.html Thanks, Sergio From sergio.garcia@imag.fr Thu Jun 3 03:11:00 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i537B0sZ021339 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 03:11:00 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i537AtUK000316 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 03:10:55 -0400 Received: from imag.imag.fr ([129.88.30.1]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060303104610016 for ; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 03:10:47 -0400 Received: from pibe.imag.fr (pibe.imag.fr [129.88.103.53]) by imag.imag.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i537Aqmb001952 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:10:52 +0200 (CEST) From: sergio garcia Organization: calabozo To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] Operating system and installed software. Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 09:10:34 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.94 References: <200406030908.24376.sergio.garcia@imag.fr> In-Reply-To: <200406030908.24376.sergio.garcia@imag.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406030910.34613.sergio.garcia@imag.fr> X-IMAG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-IMAG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: sergio.garcia@imag.fr List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 07:11:01 -0000 On Thursday 03 June 2004 09:08 am, sergio garcia wrote: > Hello, Is there any information online about the hardware, operating system > and pre-installed software that the test machines will have? Something in > the lines of http://icfpcontest.cse.ogi.edu/machine.html > > Thanks, > > Sergio Oops, I guess that since the submission format will be a plain text file, this information is not important :). Sorry about that. Sergio From thomas.pototschnig@gmx.de Thu Jun 3 04:20:20 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i538KKsZ021865 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 04:20:20 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i538G0Uf013807 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 04:20:15 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060304200613689 for ; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 04:20:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 10090 invoked by uid 65534); 3 Jun 2004 08:20:03 -0000 Received: from p548046AF.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO stargate) (84.128.70.175) by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 03 Jun 2004 10:20:03 +0200 X-Authenticated: #13575991 Message-ID: <000c01c44943$9cd57d90$64a8a8c0@stargate> From: "Thomas Pototschnig" To: "contest chat" Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:20:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C44954.5EEA4B30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] hi all X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:20:20 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C44954.5EEA4B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi to all the people who are going to solve the programming contest = challange. 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Hi to all the people who are going to = solve the=20 programming contest challange.
 
Just a question: It is allowed for = Europeans to=20 join the contest?
 
Happy Coding :)
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C44954.5EEA4B30-- From palfrey@tevp.net Thu Jun 3 04:32:15 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i538WFsZ021970 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 04:32:15 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i538T9UX016291 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 04:32:10 -0400 Received: from mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl ([130.161.34.250]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060304320114264 for ; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 04:32:01 -0400 Received: from [130.161.159.214] (dutign.twi.tudelft.nl [130.161.159.214]) by mailhst2.its.tudelft.nl (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i538W4111024 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:32:07 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <40BEE201.5010203@tevp.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 10:32:01 +0200 From: Tom Parker User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (X11/20040528) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: contest chat Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] hi all References: <000c01c44943$9cd57d90$64a8a8c0@stargate> In-Reply-To: <000c01c44943$9cd57d90$64a8a8c0@stargate> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:32:15 -0000 Thomas Pototschnig wrote: > Just a question: It is allowed for Europeans to join the contest? I hope so! As otherwise that would count me out as well... Tom Parker -- palfrey@tevp.net http://tevp.net Everyone complains about the laws of physics, but no-one does anything about them From geoffw@cis.upenn.edu Thu Jun 3 04:54:38 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i538scsZ022038 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 04:54:38 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i538s2UN020915 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 04:54:02 -0400 Received: from gradient.cis.upenn.edu ([158.130.67.48]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060304535315257 for ; Thu, 03 Jun 2004 04:53:53 -0400 Received: from gradient.cis.upenn.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gradient.cis.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i538s1aO015781 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 04:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (geoffw@localhost) by gradient.cis.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id i538s06D015774 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2004 04:54:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gradient.cis.upenn.edu: geoffw owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 04:54:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Geoffrey A. Washburn" To: contest chat Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] hi all In-Reply-To: <40BEE201.5010203@tevp.net> Message-ID: References: <000c01c44943$9cd57d90$64a8a8c0@stargate> <40BEE201.5010203@tevp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_ORBS, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:54:38 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Tom Parker wrote: > Thomas Pototschnig wrote: > > Just a question: It is allowed for Europeans to join the contest? > > I hope so! As otherwise that would count me out as well... It is the *International* Conference on Functional Programming, so anyone in the world is allowed to compete. We'll even accept entries from off-planet. From the_prof@gmx.net Fri Jun 4 01:40:21 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i545eLsZ027258 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 01:40:21 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i545Y3Uu019147 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 01:40:16 -0400 Received: from smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de ([141.62.1.23]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060401400728343 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 01:40:07 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E74C1A2911 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 07:42:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.hdm-stuttgart.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13333-02-47 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 07:42:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [141.62.33.34] (wl334.hdm-stuttgart.de [141.62.33.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE87E1A2907 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 07:42:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40C00B31.6050705@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:40:01 +0200 From: "the_prof@gmx.net" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icfp contest ml Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hdm-stuttgart.de Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] list of teams X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 05:40:21 -0000 hi there, is anybody composing a list of teams beforehand? would be nice to know who's competing. nicolas schmid From thomas.pototschnig@gmx.de Fri Jun 4 03:46:29 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i547kTsZ027614 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 03:46:29 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i547hRUW013133 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 03:46:24 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060403462327239 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 03:46:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 21546 invoked by uid 65534); 4 Jun 2004 07:46:23 -0000 Received: from p548049D3.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO stargate) (84.128.73.211) by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 04 Jun 2004 09:46:23 +0200 X-Authenticated: #13575991 Message-ID: <000c01c44a08$124d34e0$64a8a8c0@stargate> From: "Thomas Pototschnig" To: "contest chat" References: <40C00B31.6050705@gmx.net> Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] list of teams Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 09:46:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:46:29 -0000 > hi there, > > is anybody composing a list of teams beforehand? would be nice to know > who's competing. > > nicolas schmid > I thought the list of teams wouldn't be available beforhand because I thought nobody has to register for the competition. I only found the two mailing lists but nothing for registering for the competition. If I am wrong pls send me a link for registering :) Thomas Pototschnig From the_prof@gmx.net Fri Jun 4 03:55:48 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i547tmsZ027657 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 03:55:48 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i547rUUR015091 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 03:55:12 -0400 Received: from mailgws1.fraunhofer.de ([129.233.111.111]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060403551127678 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 03:55:12 -0400 Received: from mailgws1.fraunhofer.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgws1.fraunhofer.de (8.12.11+/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i547m5Ss018095 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 09:48:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from io.ipa.fhg.de (io.IPA.FhG.de [129.233.11.11]) by mailgws1.fraunhofer.de (8.12.11+/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i547m5AA018089 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 09:48:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gmx.net (neo-hiwi2.gps-stuttgart.de [129.233.81.253]) by io.ipa.fhg.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i547vga1032515 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 09:57:42 +0200 Message-ID: <40C02ADF.6060504@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 09:55:11 +0200 From: Nicolas Schmid User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: contest chat Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] list of teams References: <40C00B31.6050705@gmx.net> <000c01c44a08$124d34e0$64a8a8c0@stargate> In-Reply-To: <000c01c44a08$124d34e0$64a8a8c0@stargate> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RATWR10_MESSID,RCVD_IN_ORBS, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:55:48 -0000 hello, > I thought the list of teams wouldn't be available beforhand because I > thought nobody has to register for the competition. that's exactly, what i thought too. i was just wondering if anybody has put up an inofficial list (just for fun). so long niclas schmid From q5480035@mailstore.FernUni-Hagen.de Fri Jun 4 04:14:50 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i548EosZ027944 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 04:14:50 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i5487KUq018278 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 04:14:45 -0400 Received: from cl-mailhost.FernUni-Hagen.de ([132.176.114.84]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060404144428705 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 04:14:44 -0400 Received: from mailstore.fernuni-hagen.de ([132.176.114.185]) by cl-mailhost.FernUni-Hagen.de with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BW9qe-0006Xw-9c for icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 10:14:44 +0200 Received: from [217.9.102.3] (account ) by mailstore.fernuni-hagen.de (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0.6) with HTTP id 5760040 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 10:14:43 +0200 From: "Marc van Woerkom" To: contest chat X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.4.0.6 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 10:14:43 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <40C02ADF.6060504@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Lightning division X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 08:14:50 -0000 Hello it looks very much that I can only do the lightning division (not enough time). :( Anyone else here in that situation? My mallet will be Erlang. :) Regards, Marc From the_prof@gmx.net Fri Jun 4 11:56:31 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54FuVsZ031306 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:56:31 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54FtKUS023936 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 11:56:26 -0400 Received: from smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de ([141.62.1.24]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060411561601333 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 11:56:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFBA839B1 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:57:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx3.hdm-stuttgart.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24082-01-58 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:57:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [141.62.33.34] (wl334.hdm-stuttgart.de [141.62.33.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94067839B0 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:57:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40C09B88.2070609@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:55:52 +0200 From: "the_prof@gmx.net" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icfp contest ml Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hdm-stuttgart.de Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] team listing X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:56:31 -0000 greetings contestants, i'm putting up a unofficial listing of all participating teams. anyone seeking inclusion should write me a personal mail (don't replac to the list) containing the url of the teams homepage, and a short description of the team. good luck to all nicolas schmid From learr@rogers.com Fri Jun 4 12:07:11 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54G7BsZ031513 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:07:11 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54G4HUX026444 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:07:06 -0400 Received: from algomail.algorithmics.com ([204.92.92.4]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060412070522651 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:07:05 -0400 Received: from rogers.com (torrlear2.algorithmics.com [10.1.10.57]) by algomail.algorithmics.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13308 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40C09E29.2040402@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:07:05 -0400 From: Rolf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040421 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu References: <20040604.105659.71550092.sumii@saul.cis.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <20040604.105659.71550092.sumii@saul.cis.upenn.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] And we're off! X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:07:11 -0000 here goes ... ants. From the_prof@gmx.net Fri Jun 4 12:26:49 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54GQnsZ031739 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:26:49 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54GQhUK032106 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:26:44 -0400 Received: from smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de ([141.62.1.24]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060412264323964 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:26:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49E8839B2; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:27:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx3.hdm-stuttgart.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24930-01-60; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:27:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [141.62.33.34] (wl334.hdm-stuttgart.de [141.62.33.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725B6839B1; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:27:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40C0A29D.5020106@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:26:05 +0200 From: "the_prof@gmx.net" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "the_prof@gmx.net" Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] team listing References: <40C09B88.2070609@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <40C09B88.2070609@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hdm-stuttgart.de Cc: icfp contest ml X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:26:49 -0000 sorry, i forgot to put the url in the mail: http://www.hdm-stuttgart.de/~ns019/extras/icfpcontest the_prof@gmx.net wrote: > greetings contestants, > > i'm putting up a unofficial listing of all participating teams. > anyone seeking inclusion should write me a personal mail (don't replac > to the list) containing the url of the teams homepage, and a short > description of the team. > > good luck to all > > nicolas schmid > _______________________________________________ > Icfp04-discuss mailing list > Icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu > http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/icfp04-discuss > > From bartoschek@gmx.de Fri Jun 4 12:43:01 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54Gh1sZ031977 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:43:01 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54GfFUS004701 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:42:56 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060412425625285 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:42:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 25764 invoked by uid 65534); 4 Jun 2004 16:42:55 -0000 Received: from pD9E3FD3E.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO pd9e3fd3e.dip.t-dialin.net) (217.227.253.62) by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 04 Jun 2004 18:42:55 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1174187 From: Christoph Bartoschek To: icfp contest ml Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:42:49 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406041842.49895.bartoschek@gmx.de> Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] resting X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:43:02 -0000 Hi, in the function step i read: if resting(a) > 0 then set_resting(a, resting(a) -1) else switch get_instruction(color(a), state(a)) of ..... // all cases .... case Flip(p, st1, st2); Is it correct that during the resting phase no other actions like sensing are allowed? Christoph From stefan.pantke@turingart.com Fri Jun 4 12:50:02 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54Go2sZ032059 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:50:02 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54Gh7Us005122 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:49:57 -0400 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.185]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060412495725692 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 12:49:57 -0400 Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BWHtE-0008F0-00 for icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:49:56 +0200 Received: from [217.227.202.205] (helo=[192.168.1.65]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BWHtE-0005MJ-00; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:49:56 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <33E1E78E-B647-11D8-949F-000A9585ABA2@turingart.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "turingart :: Sales" Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:49:53 +0200 To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:6eedac76bf3dc714cec9436e6939c89b Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] JOIN X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:50:03 -0000 From icfp@jdev.users.panix.com Fri Jun 4 14:28:26 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54ISQsZ032687 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:28:26 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54IQYUS031204 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:28:21 -0400 Received: from planetarium.xlerb.net ([216.254.120.41]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060414282031810 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:28:21 -0400 Received: by planetarium.xlerb.net (Postfix, from userid 8472) id 05B0D1C624; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:28:21 -0400 (EDT) To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu From: Jed Davis Organization: Chaotic X-PGP-Key-URI: http://panix.com/~jdev/pubkey.asc http://cs.oberlin.edu/~jldavis/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xF33659F9 X-PGP-Key-Finger-Address: jdev@panix.com jldavis@cs.oberlin.edu X-PGP-Key-FP: A098 903E 9B9A DEF4 168F AA09 BF07 807E F336 59F9 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:28:13 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] sample9.world and the role of chance X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:28:26 -0000 --=-=-= I can't help noticing that the '-' ants seem to have a really big advantage on the sample9.world map, what with the two food areas right next to their base, and all of the rest of the food closer to them than to the '+' ants. Such are the whims of the map generator's RNG, I guess. -- dn: cn=Jed Davis, o=panix.com # also infamous as objectclass: person mail;personal: jdev@panix.com ## PGP Key FP: A098 903E 9B9A DEF4 168F mail;work: jld@/ ## [id 0xF33659F9] AA09 BF07 807E F336 59F9 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (NetBSD) iD8DBQBAwL9EvweAfvM2WfkRAtkrAJsEh7tXESaJMRH/X5/KfArxDM3xwACdGz8Y QBA0SOQ/ndxkz3lli8p56M0= =lpkV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From learr@rogers.com Fri Jun 4 14:34:48 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54IYmsZ032735 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:34:48 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54IVnUX032524 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:34:12 -0400 Received: from fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com ([66.185.86.71]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060414341232152 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:34:12 -0400 Received: from rogers.com ([24.102.77.249]) by fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with ESMTP id <20040604183352.MWGW3107.fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@rogers.com>; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:33:52 -0400 Message-ID: <40C0C0A2.6060007@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:34:10 -0400 From: Rolf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040421 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jed Davis Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] sample9.world and the role of chance References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.102.77.249] using ID at Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:33:52 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,RATWR10_MESSID,RCVD_IN_ORBS, RCVD_IN_RFCI,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA,X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Cc: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:34:49 -0000 I guess that's why the the judges run the same map twice, each time *your* entry plays a different colour. Basically, you get no real advantage over two games. Rolf Jed Davis wrote: >I can't help noticing that the '-' ants seem to have a really big >advantage on the sample9.world map, what with the two food areas right >next to their base, and all of the rest of the food closer to them >than to the '+' ants. Such are the whims of the map generator's RNG, >I guess. > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Icfp04-discuss mailing list >Icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu >http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/icfp04-discuss > > From jschuppe@web.de Fri Jun 4 15:39:55 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54JdtsZ000699 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 15:39:55 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54Jb1UU017799 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 15:39:50 -0400 Received: from smtp05.web.de ([217.72.192.209]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060415394903861 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:39:49 -0400 Received: from [217.184.31.109] (helo=JAS) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.101 #91) id 1BWKXd-0007ZE-00 for icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:39:49 +0200 From: "Jirka Schuppe" To: Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:40:53 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: jschuppe@web.de Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] randomint ? X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:39:55 -0000 Hi, in paragraph 2.10 i solve si+1 with the formula si+1 = si × 22695477 + 1. The number will increments very fast, so i cant store this in an regular integer ?! Where is the error ? thanx From icfp@jdev.users.panix.com Fri Jun 4 16:41:11 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54KfBsZ001031 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:41:11 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54KeWUM000707 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:41:06 -0400 Received: from planetarium.xlerb.net ([216.254.120.41]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060416410607504 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:41:06 -0400 Received: by planetarium.xlerb.net (Postfix, from userid 8472) id 424251C624; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:41:06 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] randomint ? References: From: Jed Davis Organization: Chaotic X-PGP-Key-URI: http://panix.com/~jdev/pubkey.asc http://cs.oberlin.edu/~jldavis/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xF33659F9 X-PGP-Key-Finger-Address: jdev@panix.com jldavis@cs.oberlin.edu X-PGP-Key-FP: A098 903E 9B9A DEF4 168F AA09 BF07 807E F336 59F9 In-Reply-To: (Jirka Schuppe's message of "Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:40:53 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:41:01 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:41:11 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Jirka Schuppe" writes: > Hi, > > in paragraph 2.10 i solve si+1 with the formula si+1 =3D si =D7 22695477 = + 1. > The number will increments very fast, so i cant store this in an regular > integer ?! > Where is the error ? Ah, but you don't need the actual value of s_i, just s_i modulo 1073741824 (=3D65536*16384).=20=20 (Interestingly, that RNG is going to be slightly non-uniform for values of n that don't evenly divide 16384. I guess the contest writers weren't feeling sadistic enough to specify the usual fix for that.) =2D-=20 dn: cn=3DJed Davis, o=3Dpanix.com # also infamous as objectclass: person mail;personal: jdev@panix.com ## PGP Key FP: A098 903E 9B9A DEF4 168F mail;work: jld@/ ## [id 0xF33659F9] AA09 BF07 807E F336 59F9 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (NetBSD) iD8DBQBAwN5ivweAfvM2WfkRAnMlAKCZJS5kUYeVJcdmTuI9TpVDQ0AeKQCfRpUC dtkxjbj8cL5hVY3U0ujPnI8= =QHWT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From geoffw@cis.upenn.edu Fri Jun 4 16:54:41 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54KsfsZ001100 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:54:41 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54KrtUQ003975 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:54:36 -0400 Received: from gradient.cis.upenn.edu ([158.130.67.48]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060416543508439 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:54:35 -0400 Received: from gradient.cis.upenn.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gradient.cis.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i54KsZaO016872 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (geoffw@localhost) by gradient.cis.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id i54KsYPb016867; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:54:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gradient.cis.upenn.edu: geoffw owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:54:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Geoffrey A. Washburn" To: Nagarajan Anand Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] hi all In-Reply-To: <20040604204816.20590.qmail@web90009.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20040604204816.20590.qmail@web90009.mail.scd.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:54:41 -0000 On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Nagarajan Anand wrote: > Once the food reaches the anthill, is it possible for any of the ant of > the other color to acquire it ? Yes, food may be be stolen from the anthill. -- -- Geoff Washburn | geoffw@cis.upenn.edu | http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~geoffw/ -- From thomas.pototschnig@gmx.de Fri Jun 4 17:07:35 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54L7ZsZ001213 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54L2AUj006169 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:07:30 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060417072124436 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:07:21 -0400 Received: (qmail 8937 invoked by uid 65534); 4 Jun 2004 21:07:29 -0000 Received: from p548049D3.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO stargate) (84.128.73.211) by mail.gmx.net (mp026) with SMTP; 04 Jun 2004 23:07:29 +0200 X-Authenticated: #13575991 Message-ID: <001701c44a77$fbf1d4b0$64a8a8c0@stargate> From: "Thomas Pototschnig" To: "contest chat" Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:07:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C44A88.BF168BB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Dead Ants X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:07:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C44A88.BF168BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When an ant dies will it be removed from the world or will it still = occupy a cell? ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C44A88.BF168BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When an ant dies will it be removed = from the world=20 or will it still occupy a cell?
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C44A88.BF168BB0-- From jmk63@cornell.edu Fri Jun 4 17:16:15 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54LGFsZ001274 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:16:15 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54LESUQ009044 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:16:11 -0400 Received: from postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu ([132.236.56.38]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060417160124924 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:16:01 -0400 Received: from cornell.edu (pool-138-89-65-18.mad.east.verizon.net [138.89.65.18]) by postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i54LG8V0007469 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:16:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40C0E698.3020405@cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:16:08 -0400 From: Justin Koser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040308 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] hi all References: <20040604204816.20590.qmail@web90009.mail.scd.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.3.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 4.5.0.92886, Antispam-Core: 4.0.4.93542, Antispam-Data: 2004.6.4.102642 X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:16:16 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Geoffrey A. Washburn wrote: | On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Nagarajan Anand wrote: | | |> Once the food reaches the anthill, is it possible for any of the |> ant of the other color to acquire it ? | | | Yes, food may be be stolen from the anthill. And I get the impression that food held over an anthill isn't counted so as to prevent too much "guarding" of the hoard... Cheers, Justin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAwOaYNjwQxC3zLzERAiNVAJ4iaoVGyyZRkxflLDMMEHc2hkDTEgCffe8X nS/PqIbsmN3kMi6HrS0HYlU= =7mWe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From anagaraj74@yahoo.com Fri Jun 4 17:25:47 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54LPlsZ001365 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:25:47 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54LOVUQ011346 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:25:11 -0400 Received: from web90005.mail.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.94.63]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060417251110398 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:25:11 -0400 Message-ID: <20040604212510.83327.qmail@web90005.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [143.183.121.3] by web90005.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 14:25:10 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:25:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Nagarajan Anand Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] hi all To: Justin Koser , icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu In-Reply-To: <40C0E698.3020405@cornell.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, IN_REP_TO,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_ORBS,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Cc: X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:25:48 -0000 I think its the other way around. --- Justin Koser wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Geoffrey A. Washburn wrote: > | On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Nagarajan Anand wrote: > | > | > |> Once the food reaches the anthill, is it possible for any of the > |> ant of the other color to acquire it ? > | > | > | Yes, food may be be stolen from the anthill. > > > And I get the impression that food held over an anthill isn't counted so > as to prevent too much "guarding" of the hoard... > > Cheers, > Justin > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFAwOaYNjwQxC3zLzERAiNVAJ4iaoVGyyZRkxflLDMMEHc2hkDTEgCffe8X > nS/PqIbsmN3kMi6HrS0HYlU= > =7mWe > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Icfp04-discuss mailing list > Icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu > http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/icfp04-discuss __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ From c_sloma@gmx.de Fri Jun 4 17:41:29 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54LfTsZ001508 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:41:29 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54LeEUN015331 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:40:53 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060417404426496 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:40:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 11931 invoked by uid 65534); 4 Jun 2004 21:40:52 -0000 Received: from x11r3c.wh2.tu-dresden.de (EHLO x11r3c.wh2.tu-dresden.de) (141.30.228.174) by mail.gmx.net (mp016) with SMTP; 04 Jun 2004 23:40:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #6589818 From: christian sloma To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] Dead Ants Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:21:51 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <001701c44a77$fbf1d4b0$64a8a8c0@stargate> In-Reply-To: <001701c44a77$fbf1d4b0$64a8a8c0@stargate> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200406041221.51049.c_sloma@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_06_12,IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_ORBS,REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_KMAIL version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:41:29 -0000 Am Freitag 04 Juni 2004 23:07 schrieb Thomas Pototschnig: > When an ant dies will it be removed from the world or will it still occupy > a cell? As far as i understood, a dead ant is defined as not being anywhere in the world anymore. so dying == being removed From the_prof@gmx.net Fri Jun 4 17:55:54 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54LtssZ001565 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:55:54 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54LtnUK018760 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 17:55:49 -0400 Received: from smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de ([141.62.1.24]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060417554812252 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 17:55:49 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46C8839B1 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:56:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx3.hdm-stuttgart.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05530-01-13 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:56:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [141.62.33.34] (wl334.hdm-stuttgart.de [141.62.33.34]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.hdm-stuttgart.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530FC839B0 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:56:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <40C0EFE4.7080509@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:55:48 +0200 From: "the_prof@gmx.net" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icfp contest ml Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] team listing References: <40C09B88.2070609@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <40C09B88.2070609@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hdm-stuttgart.de X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:55:54 -0000 sorry, i forgot to put the url in the mail: http://www.hdm-stuttgart.de/~ns019/extras/icfpcontest the_prof@gmx.net wrote: > greetings contestants, > > i'm putting up a unofficial listing of all participating teams. > anyone seeking inclusion should write me a personal mail (don't replac > to the list) containing the url of the teams homepage, and a short > description of the team. > > good luck to all > > nicolas schmid > _______________________________________________ > Icfp04-discuss mailing list > Icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu > http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/icfp04-discuss > > From emalbert@gigared.com Fri Jun 4 18:07:53 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54M7rsZ001630 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:07:53 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54M67UQ020830 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:07:47 -0400 Received: from n6.gigared.com ([200.68.216.6]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060418073728058 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:07:38 -0400 Received: from neo (unknown [10.41.128.12]) by n6.gigared.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 941AEF5A2 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:07:15 -0300 (GMT) Message-ID: <002401c44a80$5ab95060$0c80290a@neo> From: "Eduardo Malbert" To: Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:07:27 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C44A67.2D64E390" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Gigared-MailScanner-Information: MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: emalbert@gigared.com Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] (no subject) X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:07:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C44A67.2D64E390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C44A67.2D64E390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C44A67.2D64E390-- From Olaf.Doschke@t-online.de Fri Jun 4 19:12:37 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54NCbsZ001985 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:12:37 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54NBHUY001870 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:12:32 -0400 Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.20]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060419122331561 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:12:23 -0400 Received: from fwd07.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BWNrT-0000s7-00; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:12:31 +0200 Received: from 80.137.165.176 (Gz+mxcZDreKq3TnKwK8anYgRxOSVqTnvqZJiwIL2AUtmtigdw2cZ8-@[80.137.165.176]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BWNrF-0k5tIG0; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 01:12:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Olaf.Doschke@t-online.de (Olaf Doschke) To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 4.111 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: <1BWNrF-0k5tIG0@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: Gz+mxcZDreKq3TnKwK8anYgRxOSVqTnvqZJiwIL2AUtmtigdw2cZ8- Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] no good clue X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olaf.Doschke@t-online.de List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:12:37 -0000 X-Original-Date: 04 Jun 2004 23:12 GMT X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:12:37 -0000 Hi all, my impression of the task is, that a program=20 generating an ant state machine is harder to=20 write than writing that state machine itself... some disadvantages: state numbers can change when inserting new=20 states, although you always can append new=20 states, as the order of states has nothing to do with order of execution. BUT: The first state is always state 0! So I decided to use Symbols for states and=20 Integers (esp. markers), which I will replace=20 by their line number when "compiling"... just a hint... Or does anybody now some (visual) tool for generating a state machine? I must admit, I don't have a good clue about an intelligent solution, I'd rather put more effort in a simulator. I think of writing one in Visual FoxPro, for which a brand new beta=20 of version 9 was released today (or yesterday, depending on your timezone):=20 http://msdn.com/vfoxpro (yep, it's M$. But the beta is free and expires on April 1st 2005. Bye and good luck to all,=20 Olaf Doschke (Germany, Hamburg). From haui@haumacher.de Fri Jun 4 19:13:47 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54NDlsZ002011 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:13:47 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54NAWUc001714 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:13:11 -0400 Received: from iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de ([141.3.10.81]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060419130131612 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:13:01 -0400 Received: from irams1.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de ([141.3.10.5] helo=irams1.ira.uka.de) by iramx2.ira.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #10) id 1BWNs6-0004Se-00; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:13:10 +0200 Received: from i41pc30.ipd.uni-karlsruhe.de ([141.3.49.170] helo=haumacher.de) by irams1.ira.uka.de with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #7 ) id 1BWNs5-0006bz-00; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:13:09 +0200 Message-ID: <40C10205.2030109@haumacher.de> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:13:09 +0200 From: Bernhard Haumacher Organization: Universitaet Karlsruhe User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040114 X-Accept-Language: de, en, es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Enigmail-Version: 0.82.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=RATWR10_MESSID,RCVD_IN_ORBS,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Question: Illegal Jumps X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Bernhard Haumacher List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:13:47 -0000 Hi, does somebody see in the specification, what happens with programs that jump to illegal addresses? Best regards, Bernhard Haumacher. From vgapeyev@seas.upenn.edu Fri Jun 4 19:16:46 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54NGksZ002046 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:16:46 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54NGfUK003054 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:16:41 -0400 Received: from lion.seas.upenn.edu ([158.130.12.194]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060419163231793 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:16:32 -0400 Received: from blue.seas.upenn.edu (BLUE.SEAS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.64.177]) by lion.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i54NGeju013728 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:16:41 -0400 Received: from blue.seas.upenn.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blue.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i54NGe8P008963; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (vgapeyev@localhost) by blue.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id i54NGe37008960; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:16:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Vladimir Gapeyev To: Olaf Doschke Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] no good clue In-Reply-To: <1BWNrF-0k5tIG0@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: References: <1BWNrF-0k5tIG0@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:16:46 -0000 As it was requested in the announcement, please refrain from discussing concrete implementation strategies outside of your team. Thanks, Vladimir From jmk63@cornell.edu Fri Jun 4 19:19:00 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54NJ0sZ002064 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:19:00 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54NItUK003562 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:18:55 -0400 Received: from postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu ([132.236.56.38]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060419185416752 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:18:54 -0400 Received: from cornell.edu (pool-138-89-65-18.mad.east.verizon.net [138.89.65.18]) by postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id i54NInFN007995; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <40C10358.6040905@cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:18:48 -0400 From: Justin Koser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040308 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernhard Haumacher Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] Question: Illegal Jumps References: <40C10205.2030109@haumacher.de> In-Reply-To: <40C10205.2030109@haumacher.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.3.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 4.5.0.92886, Antispam-Core: 4.0.4.93542, Antispam-Data: 2004.6.4.102658 Cc: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:19:00 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bernhard Haumacher wrote: | does somebody see in the specification, what happens with programs | that jump to illegal addresses? The ant dies of a neurological disorder? ;) Cheers, Justin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAwQNYNjwQxC3zLzERAnO7AJ0fvhrbE+oGAzL6gzCn9i6u9bHy0wCfccJD sMJ8B2ftZni2F8xwuIudpqc= =D9k7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ahudson@swri.org Fri Jun 4 19:28:36 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54NSasZ002126 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:28:36 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54NPqUb005291 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:28:31 -0400 Received: from ruby.hud ([67.9.133.191]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060419283017278 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:28:30 -0400 Received: from swri.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ruby.hud (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54NSUHs017270 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:28:30 -0500 Message-ID: <40C1059E.1070801@swri.org> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:28:30 -0500 From: Andrew Hudson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Dead ant carrying food? X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:28:36 -0000 I'm assuming that if an ant dies while carrying food he adds 4 food to the current hex instead of 3. Pretty sure it's not specified in the description, does this sound ok to everyone? (contest directors?) Andrew Hudson From ahudson@swri.org Fri Jun 4 19:32:11 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54NWBsZ002156 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:32:11 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i54NSiUX005853 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 19:31:35 -0400 Received: from ruby.hud ([67.9.133.191]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060419312500024 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:31:25 -0400 Received: from swri.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ruby.hud (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i54NVYHs017286 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 18:31:34 -0500 Message-ID: <40C10656.2050801@swri.org> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:31:34 -0500 From: Andrew Hudson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=RATWR10_MESSID,RCVD_IN_ORBS,USER_AGENT_MOZILLA_UA, X_ACCEPT_LANG version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Dead ants carrying food X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:32:11 -0000 It clears it up in the pseudo-code, sorry about post. Andrew From positrone@freemail.it Fri Jun 4 20:40:40 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i550eesZ002513 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:40:40 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i550bbUZ020055 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:40:35 -0400 Received: from smtp3.libero.it ([193.70.192.127]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060420403420983 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:40:34 -0400 Received: from freemail.it (151.27.28.120) by smtp3.libero.it (7.0.027-DD01) id 404F148A015613D7 for icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 02:40:34 +0200 Message-ID: <40C108F6.8040606@freemail.it> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:42:46 +0200 From: Luca Saiu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: it, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Pseudorandom number generator X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:40:40 -0000 Hi. The task description describes exactly how the pseudorandom number generator of the judges' simulator works, and gives an example with initial seed 12345. Is *that* the initial seed we should use to exactly match the results of the judges' simulator? Or 0, or some other value? This doesn't seem clear from the description, at least to me. Thanks in advance. -- Luca Saiu, maintainer of GNU epsilon http://www.gnu.org/software/epsilon From trivik@stwing.upenn.edu Fri Jun 4 21:11:57 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i551BvsZ002671 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:11:57 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i551AWUR027392 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:11:21 -0400 Received: from nexus.stwing.upenn.edu ([165.123.132.61]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060421112022610 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:11:20 -0400 Received: from force.stwing.upenn.edu (root@force.stwing.upenn.edu [165.123.132.65]) by nexus.stwing.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i551BKfn015008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from force.stwing.upenn.edu (trivik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by force.stwing.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i551BJBD019109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trivik@localhost) by force.stwing.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id i551BJIi019105 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:11:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: force.stwing.upenn.edu: trivik owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:11:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Trivik To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] Pseudorandom number generator In-Reply-To: <40C108F6.8040606@freemail.it> Message-ID: References: <40C108F6.8040606@freemail.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,RCVD_IN_ORBS, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_PINE,X_AUTH_WARNING version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:11:57 -0000 Hi, in order for our simulation to match the given 10,000 rounds simulation we used the "suggested" seed of 12345. On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Luca Saiu wrote: > Hi. > The task description describes exactly how the pseudorandom number > generator of the judges' simulator works, and gives an example with > initial seed 12345. Is *that* the initial seed we should use to exactly > match the results of the judges' simulator? Or 0, or some other value? > This doesn't seem clear from the description, at least to me. > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Luca Saiu, maintainer of GNU epsilon > http://www.gnu.org/software/epsilon > > _______________________________________________ > Icfp04-discuss mailing list > Icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu > http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/icfp04-discuss > From vgapeyev@seas.upenn.edu Fri Jun 4 21:18:45 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i551IjsZ002722; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:18:45 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i551IeUK029285; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:18:40 -0400 Received: from lion.seas.upenn.edu ([158.130.12.194]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060421183106358 ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:18:31 -0400 Received: from blue.seas.upenn.edu (BLUE.SEAS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.64.177]) by lion.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i551Icju025329 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:18:39 -0400 Received: from blue.seas.upenn.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blue.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i551Ic8P013288; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (vgapeyev@localhost) by blue.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9/Submit) with ESMTP id i551Icgu013285; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:18:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Vladimir Gapeyev To: Trivik Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] Pseudorandom number generator In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <40C108F6.8040606@freemail.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:18:45 -0000 Indeed, the sample dumps for sample.ant and tiny.world are based on s0=12345 -- see Section 2.13. Vladimir On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Trivik wrote: > > Hi, > > in order for our simulation to match the given 10,000 rounds simulation we > used the "suggested" seed of 12345. > > > > > On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Luca Saiu wrote: > > > Hi. > > The task description describes exactly how the pseudorandom number > > generator of the judges' simulator works, and gives an example with > > initial seed 12345. Is *that* the initial seed we should use to exactly > > match the results of the judges' simulator? Or 0, or some other value? > > This doesn't seem clear from the description, at least to me. > > Thanks in advance. > > > > -- > > Luca Saiu, maintainer of GNU epsilon > > http://www.gnu.org/software/epsilon > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Icfp04-discuss mailing list > > Icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu > > http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/icfp04-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Icfp04-discuss mailing list > Icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu > http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/icfp04-discuss > From positrone@freemail.it Fri Jun 4 21:25:00 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i551P0sZ002762 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:25:00 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i551N8US030683 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:24:55 -0400 Received: from smtp0.libero.it ([193.70.192.33]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060421245423592 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 21:24:54 -0400 Received: from freemail.it (151.27.28.120) by smtp0.libero.it (7.0.027-DD01) id 40B4BDD40023B3BC; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 03:24:47 +0200 Message-ID: <40C11353.1060303@freemail.it> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:26:59 +0200 From: Luca Saiu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: it, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vladimir Gapeyev Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] Pseudorandom number generator References: <40C108F6.8040606@freemail.it> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 01:25:00 -0000 Vladimir Gapeyev wrote: > Indeed, the sample dumps for sample.ant and tiny.world are based on > s0=12345 -- see Section 2.13. Oh, I had missed that. Thank you very much, Trivik and Vladmir. -- Luca Saiu, maintainer of GNU epsilon http://www.gnu.org/software/epsilon From hmaon@bumba.net Fri Jun 4 22:19:37 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i552JbsZ003006 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 22:19:37 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i552IqUO009309 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 22:19:01 -0400 Received: from bumba-din.bumba.net ([66.92.173.198]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060422190126356 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:19:01 -0400 Received: from hmaon by bumba-din.bumba.net with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BWQlx-0008Po-00 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:19:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 22:19:01 -0400 From: hmaon@bumba.net To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Message-ID: <20040605021901.GA25482@bumba.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,RCVD_IN_ORBS,USER_AGENT_MUTT version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Martial Arts Question X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:19:38 -0000 The specification indicates in one place that "|If an ant ever finds itself adjacent to 5 (or 6) ants of the other species, it dies" However, in the formal simulator code given the only grid places that are checked for dying ants are those that are adjacent to a grid place that an ant has just moved. What this means is that there could be a configuration of ants that is not moving, and an ant of the other species could wander into, be surrounded by five enemy ants, and not die, because his place is never checked: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . x x . . . . x . x . . . . . . x . . . . o . . . . where o is moving northeast. Thus o would find himself surrounded by five ants of the other species and live. This is a contradiction. Please disambiguate. -- Greg and Dave From learr@rogers.com Fri Jun 4 22:31:53 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i552VqsZ003095 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 22:31:53 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i552NEVU010261 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 22:31:47 -0400 Received: from web02-imail.rogers.com ([66.185.86.76]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060422294101051 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:29:41 -0400 Received: from rogers.com ([24.102.77.249]) by web02-imail.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with ESMTP id <20040605022913.VTOL114179.web02-imail.rogers.com@rogers.com>; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 22:29:13 -0400 Message-ID: <40C1301E.3060304@rogers.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 22:29:50 -0400 From: Rolf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040421 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hmaon@bumba.net Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] Martial Arts Question References: <20040605021901.GA25482@bumba.net> In-Reply-To: <20040605021901.GA25482@bumba.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at web02-imail.rogers.com from [24.102.77.249] using ID at Fri, 4 Jun 2004 22:29:13 -0400 Cc: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 02:31:53 -0000 hmaon@bumba.net wrote: >The specification indicates in one place that > >"|If an ant ever finds itself adjacent to 5 (or 6) ants of the other >species, it dies" > >However, in the formal simulator code given the only grid places that >are checked for dying ants are those that are adjacent to a grid place >that an ant has just moved. What this means is that there could be a >configuration of ants that is not moving, and an ant of the other >species could wander into, be surrounded by five enemy ants, and not >die, because his place is never checked: > > . . . . . . . > . . . . . . . > . . . x x . . > . . x . x . . > . . . . x . . > . . o . . . . > > where o is moving northeast. > > Thus o would find himself surrounded by five ants of the other > species and live. This is a contradiction. Please disambiguate. > > Check section 2.9 again.... check_for_surrounded_ants first checks the center cell, then the surrounding. Rolf From phf@cs.ucr.edu Fri Jun 4 23:40:39 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i553edsZ003355 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:40:39 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i553cIUV023455 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:40:34 -0400 Received: from barrichello.cs.ucr.edu ([138.23.169.5]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060423403330133 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:40:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by barrichello.cs.ucr.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DE512412D for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.ucr.edu (phf.cs.ucr.edu [138.23.169.166]) by barrichello.cs.ucr.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A092124124 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:40:36 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Peter Froehlich To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1B5E42CB-B6A2-11D8-A4DB-000A9579372C@cs.ucr.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on barrichello.cs.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Fwd: Random Numbers... X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 03:40:39 -0000 Sorry, sent to the wrong list before. :-) Peter Begin forwarded message: > From: icfp04-participants-owner@lists.seas.upenn.edu > Date: Fri Jun 4, 2004 19:36:37 US/Pacific > To: phf@cs.ucr.edu > Subject: Random Numbers... > > Only the administrators of this mailing list are allowed to send email > to the list participants. If you have a concern about this policy, > please send email to icfp04-organizers@lists.seas.upenn.edu. > > Thanks, > > The ICFP 04 Contest Organizers > From: Peter Froehlich > Date: Fri Jun 4, 2004 19:36:34 US/Pacific > To: icfp04-participants@lists.seas.upenn.edu > Subject: Random Numbers... > > > Hi all! > > What is the argument "n" you used for the test cases given for the > randomint function in the handout? Using 16384 works, but it's not > stated... > > Thanks, > Peter > -- > Peter H. Froehlich <><><><><><> http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~phf/ > OpenPGP: D465 CBDD D9D2 0D77 C5AF 353E C86C 2AD9 A6E2 309E -- Peter H. Froehlich <><><><><><> http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~phf/ OpenPGP: D465 CBDD D9D2 0D77 C5AF 353E C86C 2AD9 A6E2 309E From phf@cs.ucr.edu Fri Jun 4 23:41:43 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i553fhsZ003374 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:41:43 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i553cGUW023441 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 23:41:38 -0400 Received: from barrichello.cs.ucr.edu ([138.23.169.5]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060423412904397 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 23:41:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by barrichello.cs.ucr.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8FD12412D for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.ucr.edu (phf.cs.ucr.edu [138.23.169.166]) by barrichello.cs.ucr.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF37C124124 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:41:41 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Peter Froehlich To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <41EC0168-B6A2-11D8-A4DB-000A9579372C@cs.ucr.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on barrichello.cs.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.60 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] Limits to food per cell? X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 03:41:43 -0000 Hi all! The ASCII maps seem to limit food to 9 markers, but the specification doesn't say anything about a limit to the number of food "crumbs" that can be in a cell. Any clues? I like no limit, so... :-) Peter -- Peter H. Froehlich <><><><><><> http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~phf/ OpenPGP: D465 CBDD D9D2 0D77 C5AF 353E C86C 2AD9 A6E2 309E From milevin@saul.cis.upenn.edu Sat Jun 5 00:01:59 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i5541xsZ003456 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 00:01:59 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i5541EUR027521 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 00:01:23 -0400 Received: from saul.cis.upenn.edu ([158.130.12.4]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060500011405393 for ; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:01:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saul.cis.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with SMTP id i5541Nib023563 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 00:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200406050401.i5541Nib023563@saul.cis.upenn.edu> To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:41:41 PDT." <41EC0168-B6A2-11D8-A4DB-000A9579372C@cs.ucr.edu> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:01:23 EDT From: Michael Levin X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,RCVD_IN_ORBS version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] mailing list usage X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 04:02:00 -0000 Hi Folks This is just a clarification. We, the organizers, do not monitor the general discussion list intensely as it is for the participants to talk amongst themselves. So if you want a prompt reply from the organizers send your query to the organizer list. Over and out, M From icfp@jdev.users.panix.com Sat Jun 5 00:23:57 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i554NvsZ003552 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 00:23:57 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i554KdUe030988 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 00:23:52 -0400 Received: from planetarium.xlerb.net ([216.254.120.41]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060500235031969 for ; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:23:52 -0400 Received: by planetarium.xlerb.net (Postfix, from userid 8472) id 52DE21C624; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 00:23:50 -0400 (EDT) To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Subject: Re: [Icfp04-discuss] Limits to food per cell? References: <41EC0168-B6A2-11D8-A4DB-000A9579372C@cs.ucr.edu> From: Jed Davis Organization: Chaotic X-PGP-Key-URI: http://panix.com/~jdev/pubkey.asc http://cs.oberlin.edu/~jldavis/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xF33659F9 X-PGP-Key-Finger-Address: jdev@panix.com jldavis@cs.oberlin.edu X-PGP-Key-FP: A098 903E 9B9A DEF4 168F AA09 BF07 807E F336 59F9 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:23:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <41EC0168-B6A2-11D8-A4DB-000A9579372C@cs.ucr.edu> (Peter Froehlich's message of "Fri, 4 Jun 2004 20:41:41 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 04:23:57 -0000 --=-=-= Peter Froehlich writes: > Hi all! > > The ASCII maps seem to limit food to 9 markers, but the specification > doesn't say anything about a limit to the number of food "crumbs" that > can be in a cell. Any clues? I like no limit, so... :-) The spec does say there's no limit. But with 8 provided food blobs, of size 3x4 and 5 crumbs per cell --- plus 3 crumbs for each of the 182 starting ants, minus the 5 ants you need for killing --- you have an upper bound of 1067. You know, I don't think the exact parameters of the food blobs (other than there being 8 of them) are actually specified anywhere; I suppose you could assume (as I did above, and as the spec seems to suggest) that they'll always be the way they are in the examples, but.... -- dn: cn=Jed Davis, o=panix.com # also infamous as objectclass: person mail;personal: jdev@panix.com ## PGP Key FP: A098 903E 9B9A DEF4 168F mail;work: jld@/ ## [id 0xF33659F9] AA09 BF07 807E F336 59F9 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (NetBSD) iD8DBQBAwUrWvweAfvM2WfkRAvJoAJ9puz3vq6cD/xHY79MdXBef3CUJogCfaTpC 6KbiiXte9iDQYFwQuFllIag= =D2xY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From jose.bollo@worldonline.fr Sat Jun 5 03:14:32 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i557EWsZ004205 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 03:14:32 -0400 Received: from mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (mercury-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.118]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i557CeUT027818 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 03:14:27 -0400 Received: from mail.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91]) by mercury.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060503142606356 for ; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 03:14:27 -0400 Received: from worldonline.fr (212.83.189.183) by mail.libertysurf.net (6.5.036) id 40C07EB500192BD1 for icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 09:14:26 +0200 Message-ID: <40C172B6.3050609@worldonline.fr> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 09:13:58 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?jos=E9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr; rv:1.4.1) Gecko/20031114 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] happy X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 07:14:32 -0000 hello every one, have a good day and succes with your ants jos=E9 From Olaf.Doschke@t-online.de Sat Jun 5 10:08:57 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i55E8vsZ006036 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 10:08:57 -0400 Received: from SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (sedna-s25.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.25.104]) by telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i55E8CUP005318 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 10:08:52 -0400 Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by SEDNA.SEAS.UPENN.EDU (SAVSMTP 3.1.3.37) with SMTP id M2004060510084201931 for ; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 10:08:42 -0400 Received: from fwd06.aul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BWbqt-0001xU-01; Sat, 05 Jun 2004 16:08:51 +0200 Received: from 80.137.154.224 (XL0fTsZfweEX5nrvvK9R6LpoHRxKuned0zEqJqPgNYXtv9URnMJU4c@[80.137.154.224]) by fwd06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1BWbqf-27vLkW0; Sat, 5 Jun 2004 16:08:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Olaf.Doschke@t-online.de (Olaf Doschke) To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 4.111 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: <1BWbqf-27vLkW0@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Seen: false X-ID: XL0fTsZfweEX5nrvvK9R6LpoHRxKuned0zEqJqPgNYXtv9URnMJU4c Subject: [Icfp04-discuss] some questions about you X-BeenThere: icfp04-discuss@lists.seas.upenn.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Olaf.Doschke@t-online.de List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 14:08:57 -0000 X-Original-Date: 05 Jun 2004 14:08 GMT X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 14:08:57 -0000 Hi, My Name is Olaf, Olaf Doschke Not totally clueless anymore... Questions about the task should only be written to icfp04-organizers@lists.seas.upenn.edu, you'll get answers very fast! So here some 'off topic' questions=20 about you, social stuff and things... I'll not just only questoin them, but also answer them=20 concerning me.... Where does everybody come from? By looking at=20 the dCoy homepage (see thread 'team listing') there seem to be some people from germany, including me. How old are you?=20 I'm 35 years old (that's decimal ;) Why do you compete? Just for Fun Do you have a homepage? Yes and no, not for the ICFP Contest. What team name do you have? I didn't choose one by now. Perhaps participiANT 0815 Lightning Division? Maybe, although I'd only submit an untested=20 Ant. (no simulator yet, and but I'd like to see how far I get without testing the ant(s) in a simulation. Main Contest? Very probable. Feel Lucky - Will you be the winner? Hmm... Ask again later Staying Awake during nights? I'll have my normal routine (including sleep). Don't Use Drugs - Keine Macht den Drogen. Maximum 1 pot of coffee per hour :-)- Good luck to all! Bye, Olaf. ------ From jmk63@cornell.edu Sat Jun 5 10:47:21 2004 X-Mailman-Handler: $Id: mm-handler,v 1.2 2002/04/05 19:41:09 bwarsaw Exp $ Received: from telepathy.seas.upenn.edu (telepathy.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.88]) by rhizome.s