[TYPES] Could we temporarily stop having conferences in the US?

[Niki Vazou]

Hey,

I also agree that moving is getting more complicated (both for the
geopolitical events and the environment...)
So, maybe a good alternative would be, in parallel to the main event, to
have satellite events. For example, when a conference happens in USA, to
have participants gather in another country to attend/participate.

Best,
Niki

On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 5:35 PM Julia Belyakova <julbinb at gmail.com> wrote:

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>
> I don't disagree that the US is not a welcome destination for many people
> right now.
>
> I did want to point out the existence of the trapped-in-the-US
> international community because in my experience, a lot of people,
> understandably, are not aware of this phenomenon.
>
> In general, there are many reasons why an individual cannot travel to a
> particular location, be it the US or another country.
>
> To be constructive, I would like to amplify an alternative suggestion
> discussed in Zulip, which is to have an explicit policy for presenting the
> paper at a different conference that is held in a more suitable location
> for the author. Similar to what SIGPLAN-track has been doing at SPLASH.
>
> Of course, it would require more coordination across the conferences and an
> additional logistics burden on organizers.
>
> --
> Kind regards, Julia
>
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> On Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 12:27 AM Sanjiva Prasad <sanjiva at cse.iitd.ac.in>
> wrote:
>
> > So ia=s my son (for INS reasons) -- could not attend ECOOP or CAV this
> > year where he had best papers.
> >
> > But computer science is not a US monopoly (not even in ACM now, though
> > registered in the US).
> > It costs Indians and Chinese and some others USD250 over the visa costs
> > just to enter the US.
> > Am not saying that getting into Europe or India is easier, but US is not
> > a welcome destination for many right now.
> >
> > On 22/09/25 04:18, Julia Belyakova wrote:
> > > [ The Types Forum,
> > http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list   ]
> > >
> > > I understand this position but just want to remind that there are many
> > > international students and professionals in the community who are stuck
> > > inside the US and cannot cross the border, even to go Canada.
> > >
> > > I, for one, have been stuck in the US since 2020.
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Sanjiva Prasad
> > Professor, Department of Computer Science and Engineering
> > Indian Institute of Technology Delhi (IIT Delhi)
> >
> >
> >
>


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Niki Vazou